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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@Phanatic wrote: This isn't "lessons learned," it's "hack pop-psychoanalysis by a guy who runs a restaurant." There's so much supposition in there that it's actually difficult to glean any objective...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@DloBurns wrote: not-tippigng is half a step away from "fuck this I'm walking out, I doubt they'd even notice" Read full topic

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@Humbabella wrote: The vast majority of people try to do well at their jobs because they feel some sense of responsibility. People want to be perceived as being good at what they do by others, and...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@Humbabella wrote: If the last thing you are thinking about in a restaurant in sexually harassing your waitress, that's a good thing. If you don't realize that a lot of men sexually harass waitresses...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@crenquis wrote: I prefer that my Waitrons be DC models -- the AC versions are just a bit too much with their fluctuating phases and inconvenient cords. I would never tip one though, that just seems...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@L_Mariachi wrote: I like to linger at the end of a meal sometimes, but I'd be distinctly uncomfortable doing so in a busy place with people waiting to be seated. It would be the opposite of relaxing....

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@PhasmaFelis wrote: greggman: Interesting that so many people believe the original article, me included, even though it's completely false. Read the reviews. The service sucked at The Linkery Ian...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@L_Mariachi wrote: Pay may not be the only thing that motivates us, but I think reality firmly supports the prevalence of working-to-get-paid over working-to-get-warm-fuzzies-about-oneself....

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@GilbertWham wrote: I'd tell 'em to fuck off, quite frankly. Read full topic

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@GilbertWham wrote: No, he/she could pay their staff a decent wage. Skating as close to the bone on employment law as possible makes you an asshole. Read full topic

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@IMB wrote: LMAO. In retrospect, I should have, but then you have to worry about spit in your food. Read full topic

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@malmazan wrote: Yes, I guess it's the visitor's problem to get used to fake friendlyness Read full topic

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@Rindan wrote: As someone already mentioned, not tipping in the US is basically like walking out and refusing the pay the bill. Or, perhaps a little closer, it is like paying the bill and then tossing...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@Humbabella wrote: People do things for money, but that's a huge simplification. In order to believe that tips will yield better service, I think you have to believe that: a) wait staff are largely...

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@jandrese wrote: Rindan: As someone already mentioned, not tipping in the US is basically like walking out and refusing the pay the bill. Oh yeah. I went to a restaurant once with a bunch of friends....

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@Chad wrote: I don't deny that some men harass their waitresses, but the author of the original article presented it in a manner that made it seem as if a) All men harass their servers and b) Tips are...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@greggman wrote: The article makes it clear Jay Porter can't be trusted to be telling the truth. That's all that really matters in this case. You can't trust any of his conclusions. It may well be...

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@WearySky wrote: Humbabella: And what about competency? Is waiting tables super easy and anyone who messes up obviously just not interested? Being paid less than a living wage is not going to inspire...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@chgoliz wrote: For the record, when I was a server there was NEVER a shift I wasn't hit on in an aggressive way. I think you'll find that's the consensus among women who work in the industry. Read...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@Humbabella wrote: The idea of doing something for the reason it is "supposed" to be done rather than paying attention to it's actual effect is how people justify for the war on drugs and anti-choice...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@WearySky wrote: You're right. I should give a good tip, and just complain to the manager instead. At least then, the shitty server's boss will know that they are doing a shitty job. And then it's...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@Humbabella wrote: If I get shitty service, and the server fully admits that they didn'tdo a good job (or explains that they're shortstaffed, or whatever) andapologizes? I'll still give a good tip. If...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@fireshadow wrote: I would like to add to your arguments that leaving a bad tip would only "teach" the server that their service was bad if every customer was doing the same thing. The research...

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

@llazy8 wrote: Says they moved to San Francisco and are opening a restaurant called Salsipuedes in Oakland. Read full topic

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Lessons learned from a flat-rate service-charge, no-tip restaurant

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